Dota 2 ancient stacking rocks

Dota 2 ancient stacking rocks

Can someone please explain when and why people do this? I would like to improve my support gameplay and have been practicing stacking with neutral creeps, but I’m not sure what would be the most ideal situation with regards to Ancient creeps.

I was in a game where another player (Medusa) and I (Sven) were dire-side and laned bottom. For quite a long time I was solo in the lane and Medusa was stacking and farming creep. What I don’t quite understand is instead of just farming the Ancient creeps, why was this player also stacking?

Stacking Jungle creeps, ESPECIALLY Ancients, can cause a HUUUGE BOOST for your carries.

Sven with his cleave can simply ult and kill all of them with 1-4 hits

WTF, you can’t nuke Ancients. It only works well when you have lots of physical DPS or a cleave.

Actually, you can, with some (physical, AOE non-target) nukes. Tide loves helping low level carries farm ancients.

Can someone please explain when and why people do this? I would like to improve my support gameplay and have been practicing stacking with neutral creeps, but I’m not sure what would be the most ideal situation with regards to Ancient creeps.

I was in a game where another player (Medusa) and I (Sven) were dire-side and laned bottom. For quite a long time I was solo in the lane and Medusa was stacking and farming creep. What I don’t quite understand is instead of just farming the Ancient creeps, why was this player also stacking?

Can someone please explain when and why people do this? I would like to improve my support gameplay and have been practicing stacking with neutral creeps, but I’m not sure what would be the most ideal situation with regards to Ancient creeps.

I was in a game where another player (Medusa) and I (Sven) were dire-side and laned bottom. For quite a long time I was solo in the lane and Medusa was stacking and farming creep. What I don’t quite understand is instead of just farming the Ancient creeps, why was this player also stacking?

Let me put it this way, when you farm a camp how would you like to farm it for twice the xp and gold in half the time?
Thats why you stack.

Stacking is not done by the Carry, its done by the supports.

The reason is this, more GPM.

If a carry comes to an ancient site that is not stacked, he will get to kill 3 creeps easy, no doubt and get that gold. But this is not an optimized method.

The carry will have to come to the ancient every minute to get the ancient gold, which is a waste of time.

Another factor is that if the Carry comes to farm around the minute mark, he easily misses the farm from one set of ancients as they wont spawn.

What a support does is, attack the ancient at X:53 minute mark and run out of the camp, the creeps will follow, and new creeps will spawn and be stacked. Continue this 4 times or so.
At this time, carry would be farming in lane and hopefully getting kills. When you notify the carry to farm the ancient after a 4 stack, the GPM that the Carry gets goes off the chart and could become a game changing move.

How to Stack Ancient Creeps in Dota 2 – Another Trick

How to Stack Ancient Creeps in Dota 2 – Another Trick

I am sure some people already know about this, but this guide is for the people who don’t know. This is a simple trick about how to stack ancient creeps in Dota 2. Other than your hero you can use any dominated creep to stack Ancient Creep for you when you are farming in any other place/lane. You can use many “Hero Owned Creeps” for this purpose, like Nature Prophet’s treants, Lycan’s Wolfs and so on…

However, if you are playing with any hero who does not have “His Owned Creeps “, you can use “Helm of the Dominator” to dominate a creep to stack the ancient creep camp for you. This is same how you stack other Neutral Creeps.

How and When Creeps Re-spawn?

Creeps re-spawn first time at 1:00 and then after that, at each minute mark, that means at 2:00, 3:00 etc…

Once Creeps have been killed in a neutral camp, new creeps will re-spawn when minute completes. If the last creep dies after X:54 time , then no creeps wave will re-spawn at next minute mark. So that means, if you want that camp creeps to re-spawn again at minute mark, then you need to kill creeps before X:53. X here means any minute. Mechanics changed now. Now creeps will respawn even if you kill the creeps at X:59 provided you are not in the camp range to block next spawn.

How to stack Ancient Creeps Now

So let’s see how it is done. Basic idea is that you pull the neutrals away from their camps at about x:50 – x:54 of every minute (X means any minute). That way, when the game checks if the creeps are there each minute, it will think that the creeps have been killed and will, therefore, spawn new creeps.

Lets do this step by step

1. Dominate a creep if you have not done it yet. Prefer to get some high HP creep so even if Ancient Creeps attack it, it should survive. Any creep dominated by helm of the dominator will have 1400 HP.
2. Get your hero to a safe place where ever you are, or otherwise enemy may gank you once you are busy stacking creeps.
3. At about x:51-x:52 mark, ask your dominated creep to attack the Ancient Creeps, but try not to actually attack, just give attack command, or your creep might die.
4. Start moving your dominated creep out of Ancient Creep camp. Ancient Creeps will follow you.
5. Make sure Ancient Creeps are not in their camps at x:59 to x+1:01
6. You have successfully stacked 1 ancient creep wave.

Now keep repeating the above steps for the next couple of minutes, and you will get lots of Ancient Creeps stacked in their camp.

You can now kill them for a huge gold bounty. This is best done with a hero who has some form of splash attack / AOE attack damage so you can kill the neutral camps quickly.

When stacking the first couple of times, do it around x:53. When more creeps are there, you have to do it around x:51-x:52 to make sure all of the creeps get out of the way before 1 minute.